#E003* - WHY GERMANY IS URGING A YES VOTE TO LISBON
#E003* - WHY GERMANY IS URGING A YES VOTE TO LISBON!
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WHY GERMANY IS URGING "HUMILITY" ON IRELAND & A YES VOTE TO LISBON!!
The National Platform EU Research and Information Centre States:
Thursday 26 March 2009
Why Germany is urging "humility" on us and a Yes vote to Lisbon
Last week the German Ambassador said that a second No vote to Lisbon would have "horrific consequences" for Ireland.
On Tuesday the German Social Democrat spokesman on European affairs said that any economic assistance to Ireland would require "greater humility" from Dublin, a renewed commitment to the EU from Irish voters in a Lisbon Two referendum, and a better appreciation of "the common German and Irish interest" in continuing European integration.
Why this German anxiety over Lisbon?
One obvious reason is that the Lisbon Treaty would hugely advantage Germany, the EU's largest Member State, by moving EU law-making to a primarily population basis and abolishing the weighted vote system for making EC/EU laws that has existed since the 1957 Rome Treaty.
By basing EU law-making primarily on population size, Lisbon would double Germany's voting weight on the EU Council of Ministers from its present 8% under the Nice Treaty rules to 17%. France's vote would go from 8% to 13%, Britain's and Italy's from their current 8% to 12% each, while Ireland's voting weight would be halved from 2% to 0.8% (Art.16 TEU).
Under the present Nice Treaty arrangements Germany, France, Britain and Italy have 29 votes each in making EU laws and Ireland has 7 votes. An EU law requires 255 votes out of 345 and at least half the Member States have to vote in favour to make up those 255 votes. A "blocking minority" is 91 votes: that is, 345 minus 255 plus 1.
By contrast, under Lisbon a new European law would require the support of 55% of the Member States, i.e.15 out of 27, so long as the 15 make up 65% of the aggregate EU population. Germany has four times Ireland's voting weight now: 29 votes as against 7. By basing votes on population size Lisbon would thereby give Germany 20 times Ireland's voting weight, with its 82 million people as against Ireland's 4.3.
France, Britain and Italy would each have some 15 times Ireland's voting weight on a population basis, compared to their four times now.
Germany and France between them have nearly one-third of the EU's total population. Under the proposed Lisbon Treaty rules Germany and France would need only two other countries to vote with them to be able to block any EU law they did not like.
Giving Germany and the other Big States more of a say in EU law-making is what German Ambassador Christian Pauls really means when he says Lisbon would make the EU more "efficient"!
If Lisbon goes through and gives Germany and the other Big States such an increase in their power, how long - realistically speaking - do people think Ireland's 12.5% corporation tax rate would last, as compared to Germany's 30%?
How long would it be before the EU imposes its own income tax, sales tax or property tax on us - which would be permitted for the first time under Lisbon's Article 311 TFEU and which Germany and France are likely to push for once the Council of Ministers would obtain the legal power ?
In the European Parliament when Ireland joined the EEC in 1973, Germany had 36 seats as against 10 for Ireland - 3.6 times as much. Under Lisbon, Germany would have 96 MEPs as against 12 for Ireland - 8 times as much.
The political reality is that there is now a race on in time between the ratification of Lisbon, which would greatly increase the powers of Germany, France and the Brussels Commission in the EU, and the advent to office of a Conservative Government in Britain by spring next year at the latest.
Conservative policy is to hold a referendum on Lisbon in the UK and recommend a No vote to it to the British people - so long as we Irish are not bullied and bamboozled into reversing our No vote before then, thereby bringing Lisbon into force for all 27 EU States before Mr Gordon Brown's Government loses office.
By standing by last year's No to Lisbon, we would thereby be opening the way to enabling our fellow countrymen and women in Northern Ireland to have a vote also on this important Treaty.
(Signed)
Anthony Coughlan Director
It is quite clear that Mr. Brown as Prime Minister in Britain is not only an economic illiterate but a catastrophic failure for Britain, who is greatly out of step with the peoples of Britain, to an extent that within a mere few days the YouTube video below has received almost 1,500,000 viewings on YouTube.
The speech has set light to news channels the length and breadth of America where the peoples had been duped into believing the British peoples supported membership of the EU.
A misguided view that has come about as a result of the last two British Prime Ministers (and sadly various others before them) Gordon Brown & Tony Blair being inescapable doctrinal liars - the latter being a war criminal who orchestrated the lies of WMDs and 45 minute delivery as the foundation on which America was duped into war in Iraq.
A war in which the slaughter of somewhere around 1,000,000 inocent Iraqis has occured with no serious stability or beneficial outcome, not to mention the 100s of 1,000s of maimed, scarred and killed American soldiers - America's finest led like lambs to the slaughter on the lies of Tony Blair & George W. Bush's commercial interests with Cheyney & Rumsfeld in the profits of military manufacture.
Do be minded that this cuts deeper when you realise the fact that retired British prime Minister John Major was paid a salary of £1,000,000 a year as a director of the arms corp. Carlysle Group in which many of the American inner cabal hold interests and directorships! Be minded also that John Prescott Tony Blair's puppet master a long term doctrinal communist who had served numerous terms as an MEP learning the inner workings of that corrupt and undemocratic scam also had many commercial dealings with The Carlysle Group selling out British assetts whilst ostensibly Deputy Prime Minister!
You will find Dan Hannan's expose of the lies and incompetence of Gordon Brown hard to refute as he is a British MEP in The EUropean so called Parliament.
Dan Hannan is speaking of The EU which wishes in its utterly undemocratic style to crush the liberty of Ireland through a second vote on Lisbon because Ireland got it wrong first time thereby ensuring they had a future as a peoples not a bought and paid for puppet of the central soviet of the EU.
Turn EVERY Election into a Referendum for Liberty, Sovereignty, Justice & Home Rule Write on YOUR Ballot Paper in EVERY election: LEAVE THE EU
TO LEAVE THE EU
What is the exit and survival plan for Ireland & the United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single Irish or British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty. Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.
The fact is that even if EVERY Irish & British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING. Every single British & Irish Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP & CFP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!
To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!
Regards, Greg L-W. 01291 – 62 65 62
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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of Ireland or the United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the 'Mythical Mandate' for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made in our own Parliaments, for our Countries & our Peoples.
But perhaps with our help we can assist them to value liberty and self determination rather than a mere existyence as 'grant junkies' used and abused by The EU to act as bait to dupe Britain!
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Poor old Ireland. They are determined to be controlled by the Germans...1930'S and now and the future!
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