#E038* - Hague, The Vatican & North see the danger in yes!

#E038* - Hague, The Vatican & North see the danger in yes!!

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William HAGUE, The VATICAN & Dr. Richard NORTH all foresee the danger in a yes vote!!!



Dr. Richard North as an informed Military and Political commentator picks up on the catastophy of a yes vote where The Times seemingly leaves off:

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Actually, the voting on the outlying islands started two days ago. And, according to The Times, the very first vote was cast in Barry Edgar Pilcher's living room in Raven Cottage on Inishfree - it went to the "no" campaign.

Mr Pilcher, 66, a London-born artist and musician, serenaded locals on his saxophone as they voted. "I voted 'no' because I think we shouldn't give our power away," Mr Pilcher said. Turnout was high, with five of Inishfree's seven eligible voters casting a ballot. Patsy Dan Rodgers, the "king" of neighbouring Tory Island, said most of the 150 islanders would vote "no" – rather appropriate for the "Tories".

With the vote expected to favour the "yes" camp, however, God – or, at least, the Vatican, which is not quite the same thing – has made an unexpected intervention, warning that the European Union threatens Ireland's "identity, traditions and history".

This is Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Vatican secretary of state, who spoke during the Pope's visit to the Czech Republic, noting that: "Individual European countries have their own identity. The EU prescribes its laws or views to them and they do not have to fit with their traditions and history. Some countries are logically resisting this – for example, Ireland."

Anodyne though this might be, it has been seized upon by the "no" camp in what is regarded as an increasingly acrimonious campaign, with prime minister Brian Cowen still lying through his teeth, claiming that he had secured "legal guarantees" from the EU on Irish concerns about the treaty.

Whatever the "yessies" might say about their level of support, Dr John O'Brennan, European politics lecturer at NUI Maynooth, is warning that the level of anger among Irish voters towards an unpopular government should not be under-estimated.

"If you talk to people all around the country," he says, "a level of anger is very, very high. Are people rational enough to put that aside and think of the interests of the country in the longer term? I'm not so sure." That is obviously from a Europhile and he may not have picked up another factor – more than a few Irish are a tad annoyed with being made to vote again, their first vote having been ignored by their political classes.

Results are not due until Saturday, and it will be mid-morning before we get an idea of which way the sentiment is going, but there is still some hope that the "piss off" factor will prevail and the Irish will have the sense to give the "colleagues" in Brussels a bloody nose.

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NONE of these DUTIES has a single Irish or British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY Irish & British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British & Irish Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP & CFP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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#E037* - CLINTON CLAIMS HIS IRISH ROOTS

#E037* - CLINTON CLAIMS HIS IRISH ROOTS!

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Bill CLINTON CLAIMS HIS IRISH ROOTS & COULD IT BE WINSTON DEFENDING IRELAND WITH A NO VOTE??


Irish prepare to vote on Lisbon treaty

The first vote in Ireland’s referendum on the Lisbon treaty was cast yesterday in Barry Edgar Pilcher’s living room in Raven Cottage on Inishfree — and it went to the “no” camp.

Residents of the island, a 15-minute trip by fishing boat from the northwestern coast in Donegal, were allowed to get the EU referendum under way two days before the rest of the country in case their tiny communities were cut off by bad weather on polling day.

Mr Pilcher, 66, a London-born artist and musician, serenaded locals on his saxophone as they voted. “I voted ‘no’ because I think we shouldn’t give our power away,” Mr Pilcher said. Turnout was high, with five of Inishfree’s seven eligible voters casting a ballot. Patsy Dan Rodgers, the “king” of neighbouring Tory Island, said most of the 150 islanders would vote “no”.

At the end of three weeks of often acrimonious campaigning, a broadcast moratorium came into effect at midnight forbidding further discussion of the pros and cons of the repackaged European constitution before the polling stations close tomorrow evening.

Voters are going to the polls in gloomy mood. Ireland became the first eurozone country to fall into recession a year ago; domestic scandals over state profligacy and accusations of incompetence have dogged the Government and, yesterday, thousands marched through Dublin to protest against cuts recommended by a government-appointed auditor.

Brian Cowen, the Taoiseach, made his final pitch to voters yesterday. He tried to explain why it was essential for Ireland to overturn the “no” that it recorded in a referendum in June last year but, according to the leader of the opposition Labour Party, Eamon Gilmore, many undecided voters were veering towards rejecting the treaty.

Last time the “no” vote prevailed with 53.4 per cent, a result that stunned Europe and plunged the European Union’s expansion project into crisis. Recent opinion polls show a slow growth in the “no” vote — but put the “yes” camp still comfortably ahead with 55 per cent.

All through the campaign, the Irish have had to listen to two competing messages of doom as to the effect of the Lisbon treaty, which aims to streamline decision-making in the expanded 27-member Union. Today is their last chance to digest the two versions before making a final choice.

The embattled Mr Cowen, whose opinion poll rating is the lowest ever recorded for an Irish leader, warned that a second rejection would damage efforts to rebuild Ireland’s collapsed economy. Calling the second referendum “one of the most important decisions in our recent history”, he said voters faced a clear choice in which the stakes could not be higher. “Will we move forward together with Europe or will we take an uncharted and more uncertain road?” he asked.

“Only with a ‘yes’ will we ensure investor confidence in Ireland, protect our influence in vital economic decisions and reform Europe so that it is more dynamic and effective.

“I understand that this is a time when many people are worried and are feeling the impact of the crisis. To them I say: the future is in your hands.

“By voting ‘yes’ you will be helping Ireland achieve economic recovery. By voting ‘yes’ you will be sending a powerful signal to job creators and investors that our country is and will remain at the heart of Europe.” In response to newspaper cartoonists who have been lampooning the exercise by portraying voters preparing for next year’s vote on the treaty, he said: “There won’t be a Lisbon Three.”

Mr Cowen’s appeal was rejected by Declan Ganley, of the anti-Lisbon group Libertas. “The Irish people can choose between two visions of economic recovery,” Mr Ganley said. “On the one hand, we can choose to be scared and vote out of fear. That is what our Government wants. They have spent millions of our own money telling us to be scared. “On the other hand, we can reject our failed political establishment, reject the failed policies of the past that Lisbon enshrines, and set ourselves on the path to growth by removing the real roadblock to recovery: Brian Cowen.

“The only job Lisbon will save is Brian Cowen’s. There is nothing in this treaty which aids recovery. There is nothing that creates jobs. In fact, by handing away more and more power to an establishment that doesn’t want to listen, and won’t have to listen after Lisbon, we would be making a mistake that we would regret for generations.”

Mr Cowen bowed to pressure from President Sarkozy to rerun the referendum after securing guarantees on key issues of Irish concern.

The Republic — which accounts for 1 per cent of the Union’s 500 million population — is the only country constitutionally bound to hold a referendum, because it modifies the constitution. A total of 24 member states have ratified the treaty, with Poland and the Czech Republic the only other countries yet to do so. If Ireland does record a “yes” when all the votes have been counted by Saturday afternoon there will be rapid efforts in Brussels to complete the treaty’s ratification — and introduce new features such as a European president.

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I am still predicting a gain of 2 to 2.5% for the NO vote as I believe the dignity and self respect of the Irish people will jeject the betrayal by their pucillanimous self seeking politicians and the theft of money from the Public Purse in an attempt to buy a yes vote.

I have a greater belief in the integrity of the Irish than even many of them have it seems and clearly I value their freedom more highly than their corrupt politicians and their cronies!

So let us hope for a minimum of the votes cast that count being 55.9% NO to subjugation under The Lisbon Constitutional Treaty as a vassal Region having so recently emerged as a self determining Free democracy less than a Century ago!

Sadly from midnight tomorrow there is the danger that The Irish Free State will no longer be Free!

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What is the exit and survival plan for Ireland & the United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single Irish or British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY Irish & British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British & Irish Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP & CFP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of Ireland or the United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the 'Mythical Mandate' for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made in our own Parliaments, for our Countries & our Peoples.

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#E036* - A yes Vote IS A TERRIFYING GAMBLE

#E036* - A yes Vote IS A TERRIFYING GAMBLE!

FOR THE LOVE OF IRELAND

&
THE LOVE OF FREEDOM

VOTE NO
TO THE NEW LISBON
CONSTITUTION

Clean Politics up NOW & make Politicians electable!

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A yes Vote IS A TERRIFYING GAMBLE WHICH IS NEAR IRREVOCABLE & A SURRENDER TO BONDAGE!!

Hi,

Read the articles on this blog and see the arguments on www.Politics.ie where you will notice the entire yes campaign is funded with money stolen from the public purse to try to buy the result the EU has Ordered them to get.

You will notice that despite aid, support, cash and staff from the EU propaganda machine and having stolen between 10 & 20 times as much money as the NO Campaign has received by legitimate donation from a broad sector of people - Bankers, Businessmen, Individuals & Organisations the yes campaign is so bereft of sound reason to vote for the new constitution in any guise that they have been reduced to abuse, ad hominem attacks and smear tactics.

I can see no excuse for a patriotic Irish Man or Woman to vote for such people using such typical EU tactics, that we have all seen time and again when the EU or its praise singers think their place at the trough for self enrichment is challenged!

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LEAVE THE EU

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What is the exit and survival plan for Ireland & the United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single Irish or British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY Irish & British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British & Irish Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP & CFP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of Ireland or the United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the 'Mythical Mandate' for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made in our own Parliaments, for our Countries & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Papers:

LEAVE THE EU

#E035* - Jens-Peter Bonde from Prof. Anthony Coughlan

Jens-Peter Bonde from Prof. Anthony Coughlan!


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Jens-Peter Bonde's Summary from Prof. Anthony Coughlan!!

From: John Anthony Coughlan
Date: 27 September 2009

Subject: European Commission interferes unlawfully in Ireland's Lisbon referendum re-run ... Article by Jens-Peter Bonde on the Commission's 16-Page Supplement in today's Irish Sunday papers.

Dublin

Sunday 26 September 2009

There has been massive interference by the European Commission in Ireland's Lisbon referendum re-run over the past month, as never happened before in the country's EU referendums. The re-run referendum takes place on Friday next.


This culminated in a 16-page propaganda Supplement on the EU being inserted in every Irish Sunday newspaper today. This must have cost several million euros - using European and Irish taxpayers' money to influence Irish voters to ratify the Lisbon Treaty and in the process expand the power and functions of the Brussels Commission itself.


The European Commission is acting unlawfully under European law, as the Commission has no function whatever in relation to the ratification of new Treaties. These are exclusively a matter for the EU Member States, which are called upon to ratify new Treaties "in accordance with their own constitutional procedures". The EU Commission's functions relate only to Treaties that have been already ratified.

Mr Jens-Peter Bonde, former Danish MEP and editor of "The Lisbon Treaty: The Readable Version", has written the article below analysing the content of the European Commission's 16-page suppelment inserted in today's Irish Sunday newspapers. You may find it of interest.


The European Commission's action is almost certainly unlawful also under Irish law, as some of the money used to finance this newspaper Supplement will have come from Irish taxpayers on both sides in the referendum. The Irish Supreme Court's decided in the 1995 McKenna case that it was unlawful to use taxpayers' money to further one side in a referendum.


Below is a criticism by Jens-Peter Bonde of some key points in the European Commission's propaganda Supplement. Mr Bonde is an acknowledged authority on the EU Treaties and was a member of the Convention which drew up the original EU Constitution which was rejected by the French and Dutch in referendums in 2005 and which is now embodied in the Lisbon Treaty.


He is not interested in making partisan points about the Treaty, but in drawing attention to the legal facts of what is in it.
______

The European Commission acts illegally in Ireland

By Jens-Peter Bonde

Member of the European Parliament 1979-2008 and member of the two Constitutional conventions, editor of "The Lisbon Treaty: The Readable Version" and the internet lexicon: euabc.com

On Sunday 27 September the European Commission placed a 16-page propaganda supplement in all Irish newspapers as a paid insert.

This is an unlawful use of European taxpayer`s money, since the European Commission has no competence whatever in the ratification of treaties.

The Commission is positively misleading on the single topic it should know best about, the appointment of the Commission itself.

"Contrary to the existing (Nice) Treaty, the Commission will continue to be formed of one Commisisoner from every Member State", the first page of the Introduction states.

On the contrary, the Nice Treaty provides in Art. 213.1 TEC: "The Commission must include at least one national of each of the Member States". This is the law today. The European Commission`s statement about the Nice Treaty is simply false.

The aim of a smaller Commission can be found in the Protocol on Enlargement. This proposes a reduvtion in the Commission when the EU reaches 27 member states. This is only a proposal. It is still not the law.

The Protocol states in Art. 4.2.1: "The number of Members of the Commission shall be set by the Council, acting unanimously".

There was an attempt to achieve the aim of a smaller Commission by the draft Constitution reducing the number of Commissioners to 2/3 of the member states. This attempt failed when the Constitution was rejected by 55% of French and 62% of Dutch voters.

The attempt was then repeated in the Lisbon Treaty. It failed in the first Irish referendum when 53 % of the Irish voters rejected it on 12 June 2008.

Therefore, Ireland and everyone else can keep their Commissioner until the Irish and all other Governments vote for a reduction in the Commission. This is the simple fact in the existing Treaty.


The Lisbon Treaty reduces the Commission to 2/3 of the number of member states on a rotation basis. That will become the law after a Yes vote.

Then there is a political promise from 27 Prime Ministers to keep one commissioner for each state. This promise binds the current Prime Ministers politically, but not necesarrily their successors.

This compromise may also be altered if there are further enlargements, as suggested by the Swedish Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt on 6 September in the Irish Times.


"One Commissioner for everyone" is not in the Treaty which Irish voters are voting on. I guess it may come about when all member states will formally agree on a later amendment. But it is not part of the Lisbon Treaty, as the Irish voters are being told by the European Commission.

I expect all member states to agree to have one Commissioner for each member state in the next Commission - but not for ever.

The political reality is that the next Commission will have 26 members PLUS an EU foreign minister who will either be a kind of observer if there is a No vote or a full Commission Vice-President if it is a Yes.

The Swedish Prime Minister and President of the European Council told the Irish Times that this 26+1 formula had already been agreed informally among diplomats.

All member states will therefore be represented in the next Commission, or else one of them will have the more attractive job of foreign minister whether the Irish vote Yes or No.

There is legal certainty about having an Irish Commissioner with a No vote. There is uncertainty with a Yes - not now but after further EU enlargement. This is a fact. The Commission`s propaganda supplement is fiction.

It is also worth noting that the non-elected Commission finds no space in its 16 pages to explain how it will increase its powers and its monopoly of initiating EU laws in a wide range of new areas.

It does not explain how the new Art. 290 TFEU gives new implementing powers to itself.

It does not explain how Art. 217.7 TFEU may permit the Commission to change international agreements without the approval of the elected members of any parliament.

It does not mention the most important change regarding the Commission, its own mode of appointment. Under Nice each member state Government "proposes" its "own" Commissioner. Under Lisbon they can only put forward "suggestions".

The decision on who will come from each country will lie with the Commission President and 20 of 27 Prime Ministers representing 65 % of the EU`s population.

This radical and important change will make the Commission even less accountable to voters than it is today. It replaces the present bottom-up procedure by a top-down one post-Lisbon.

There is not a word about this in the Commission`s supplement.

The content is handpicked for Irish voters. The new clause on "distortion of competition" on taxes in Art. 113 TFEU and the new Art. 311 TFEU providing for new taxes for the EU itself are disguised by the sentence: "...it protects the rights of each Member State, especially in sensitive areas such as taxation and defence".

The supplement entirely ignores the new "solidarity" clause on mutual defence in Art. 42.7 TEU and the clause requiring states "progressively to improve their military capabilities" in Art. 42.3 TEU.

There is not a word on the most important change in the Treaty, the shift of voting power from small to big member states.

Under Lisbon, the six largest member states will increase their share of the vote in the Council from 49% today to over 70%. The 21 smallest countries will reduce their combined share from 51% to less than 30%.

Ireland will halve its vote from 2.0% today to 0.9%. This is being kept secret from Irish voters in all public information being issued to them - paid for by their own taxpayer`s money - before their Lisbon referendum re-run on this Friday, 2 October 2009.

The Lisbon Treaty can be downloaded for free at euABC.com

I do hope this helps YOU in a Patriotic defence of Ireland's freedom and future liberty - free from the added shackles of The Lisbon Constitution, which the Irish Government in Brussels has spent 8 years failing to force upon the citizenry!

Turn EVERY Election into a Referendum for Liberty, Sovereignty, Justice & Home Rule
Write on YOUR Ballot Paper in EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for Ireland & the United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single Irish or British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY Irish & British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British & Irish Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP & CFP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of Ireland or the United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the 'Mythical Mandate' for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made in our own Parliaments, for our Countries & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Papers:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

#E034* - A NO Vote Brings NO Dangers - but yes is forever!

#E034* - A NO Vote Brings NO Dangers - but yes is forever!!

Clean Politics up NOW & make Politicians electable!

The corruption of some Politicians
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A NO Vote Brings NO Dangers for IRELAND - but yes is Forever & Has Unquantified Downside Risks and Costs!



The Truth About The Irish Economy

A No vote on the Lisbon Treaty will not harm the Republic..


By DEREK SCOTT
The Mad Hatter told Alice that "words mean what you want them to mean." He would have been at home in the European Union, where "no" means "yes" and political propaganda is passed off as information. If Ireland votes No to the Lisbon Treaty, the EU will continue and Ireland will be part of it, but if they vote Yes the Irish will find they have even less leverage in Europe than today.

In the course of the second referendum campaign in Ireland some extraordinary claims have been made about the economic consequences of voting No: it would frighten investors, cost jobs and condemn Ireland to economic isolation; while a Yes vote, to quote the Taoiseach, is the "critical first step on the path to recovery."

This is but part of a wider piece of propaganda, namely that the EU is responsible for Ireland's economic resurgence and a No vote will put this at risk. Of course Ireland has benefited from fiscal transfers from Brussels, or more accurately from taxpayers in other member states, but for many years this did not prevent Ireland's economy performing badly: slow economic growth, especially given its relative opportunity to catch up; high inflation, large budget deficits and high unemployment.

Ireland's more recent economic success is best explained by other factors and in fact its current problems and difficulty in remedying them have been compounded by membership in the EU, or at least its monetary arrangements. This fact is at odds with the suffocating consensus that dominates much establishment thinking, whether in Brussels, Dublin or even the International Monetary Fund, which continues to peddle the merits of exchange rate stability.

However, it was the large devaluation within the Exchange Rate Mechanism in August 1986 that made it possible for the Irish government to begin the process of fiscal consolidation and restoring the country's international credit standing (in 1985 Ireland was paying spreads as high as Mexico's). That Irish devaluation was followed by a domestic boom in Britain, which was then by far Ireland's biggest trading partner. Later, Irish growth suffered a setback as a result of Britain's recession—created by the exchange rate mechanism—at the beginning of the 1990s. Sterling's depreciation after September 1992 led to intolerable strains for Ireland. Reluctantly, the government did the rational thing in January 1993 and devalued massively for such an open economy. That devaluation, followed by the widening of the exchange-rate-mechanism bands in August 1993, in effect gave the Irish authorities monetary policy independence for the first time in the country's history.

This was accompanied by a whole range of market-oriented policies and Ireland's economic performance was spectacular: strong GDP and employment growth, low inflation and large budget surpluses, underpinned by the repatriation of the Irish diaspora and huge capital inflows attracted by high anticipated rates of return. Toward the end of the decade, however, problems built up because entry into the Economic and Monetary Union meant that interest rates were kept lower than if they had been set by Ireland's central bank: a spectacular boom became a spectacular bust.

Of course countries like the U.K. have their own economic difficulties, for a variety of reasons. But if London takes the right measures it can begin to put things right because monetary policy is in the hands of the Bank of England

As a result of the boom, Ireland's competitiveness has deteriorated by about 15% against its trading partners in the EU since the early 1990s. To remedy this, one way or another, the real exchange rate has to fall. Nominal depreciation is not possible, so Ireland has had to deflate and hard. The process has only just begun, but Ireland is running merely to stand still. Unless the euro depreciates by a large amount against the pound and dollar, real wages will be squeezed, output will fall further and the public finances and debt ratios will explode even more.

Ireland, like others within the economic and monetary union, has avoided a currency crisis that might have arisen had it not adopted the euro, but the so called "zone of stability" is not quite as benign as it sounds. The abandonment of individual currencies simply transfers the problem elsewhere—if a patient is sick, throwing the thermometer away doesn't constitute a cure.

Those who put Ireland's recent success down to the EU and the monetary union are wrong—they are the same people who say Ireland must vote Yes to Lisbon. Ireland has made its choice on the euro (though people were not given a vote on the decision) and all it can do is try to minimize the impediments this imposes on its room for maneuver. Ireland is in a less dire position than some other countries in monetary union, such as Spain, because it is a more open and flexible economy, meaning a relative improvement in competitiveness will have a larger impact on growth. It would be mad to erode these advantages. In the short term, the Lisbon Treaty may have little direct impact on the economy of Ireland one way or another, but over time it consolidates an economic and social model at odds with the factors that nursed the Celtic Tiger.

Leonard Shapiro wrote of Soviet Russia that "the true object of propaganda is neither to convince nor even to persuade, but to produce a uniform pattern of public utterance in which the first trace of unorthodox thought reveals itself as a jarring dissonance." Within the EU nomenklatura, dissonant voices are not tolerated. But Ireland should have the confidence to challenge the prevailing consensus that a No vote would be bad for the economy, because it's bunk.

Mr. Scott was economic adviser to U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair and is currently advisory board member of Vestra Wealth LLP in London.

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Turn EVERY Election into a Referendum for Liberty, Sovereignty, Justice & Home Rule
Write on YOUR Ballot Paper in EVERY election:
LEAVE THE EU

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for Ireland & the United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single Irish or British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY Irish & British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British & Irish Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP & CFP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of Ireland or the United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the 'Mythical Mandate' for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made in our own Parliaments, for our Countries & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Papers:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

#E033* - ELVIS, The CHIP SHOP & NO TO LISBON

#E033* - ELVIS, The CHIP SHOP & NO TO LISBON!

Clean Politics up NOW & make Politicians electable!

The corruption of some Politicians
is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

ELVIS FOUND IN A CHIP SHOP IN DUBLIN & SINGS NO TO LISBON AT THE END OF A LONG NIGHT!!




Turn EVERY Election into a Referendum for Liberty, Sovereignty, Justice & Home Rule
Write on YOUR Ballot Paper in EVERY election:
LEAVE THE EU

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for Ireland & the United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single Irish or British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY Irish & British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British & Irish Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP & CFP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of Ireland or the United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the 'Mythical Mandate' for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made in our own Parliaments, for our Countries & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Papers:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

#E034* - & The Irish Think They Have A Say!

#E034* - & The Irish Think They Have A Say!!
Clean Politics up NOW & make Politicians electable!

The corruption of some Politicians
is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

& The Irish Think They Have A Say! Democracy in the EU is all but non existent!

Hi,

Many politicians now call it 'The Post Democratic Method of Governance'
the central authority of the EU, without your democratic input, has decided to build itself a Palace at a cost of over €300Million of tax payers' money, whilst unemployment continues to soar and there is no real explanation as to how the economic slide of the recession can be reversed from the credit crash - where to provide a political fix, a band aid for a near/possibly fatal wound, they have printed BOGUS money and the politicians of the western world have squandered their way into €Trillions of debt.

Debt for the foreseeable future AND MORE.

Meanwhile the self serving, corrupt and undemocratic, unelected EU grandees are squandering their way through €Billions without providing valid accounts for 15 years. They have ignored any concept of votes as to what the unfortunate citizens want they are implementing almost every aspect of the New Constitution they drw up 6 years ago and they are still having trouble conning the public on the umpteenth pack of lies they have issued.

The promises made to different people and the different names given to the New Constitution matter not a jot to the unelected central dictator committee - they have been implementing the New Constitution New version Lisbon Constitutional Treaty in a process of salami slicing peoples rights amd allocating themselves unaccountable sums of tax payers money for their own agrandisement.

We learn from Bruno Waterfield that the EU is spending £280 million on building a new palace for its president and staff – ready for when the constitutional Lisbon treaty is ratified.

Named the Résidence Palace (pictured) after an existing Art Deco building which it replaces, that building in 1940 was used as the headquarters of the German army during the Nazi occupation of Belgium. This is a complete coincidence, and totally irrelevant. But it is kind of appropriate.

Meanwhile, as the "colleagues" lavish money on their grandiose palaces (at our expense), having recently spent £185 million refurbishing the Berlayermonster, poor old Betty is scraping around for the £44 million needed to pay for the huge backlog of repairs to our royal palaces.

Strangely enough, our contribution to the two latest EU follies is about £60 million – give or take – which would be more than enough to restore Betty's palaces to their former pristine glory, with some change left over. Instead, she is having to sell off chunks of the estate, starting with the old stables in the Royal Mews, in the grounds of Hampton Court.

These are expected to fetch £2m, which is chump-change compared with the total amount needed. At least it is a start. But it is a more than adequate reflection of our times that our national heritage is falling into disrepair, with bits having to be flogged off to keep the rest going while our money is pouring into the coffers of the "colleagues", to finance their vainglorious schemes.

On this, of course, there should be national outrage, and a very difficult decision to make ... who to shoot first, our own government or the "colleagues" in Brussels (even if both would be preferable, but you have to prioritise).

But nothing will be said. We will go on paying and, eventually, new broom Dave will take over. And, guess what! We'll go on paying. We really are going to have to shoot them, you know.

Main article nicked from Oooop North CLICK HERE

Turn EVERY Election into a Referendum for Liberty, Sovereignty, Justice & Home Rule
Write on YOUR Ballot Paper in EVERY election:
LEAVE THE EU

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for Ireland & the United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single Irish or British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY Irish & British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British & Irish Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP & CFP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of Ireland or the United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the 'Mythical Mandate' for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made in our own Parliaments, for our Countries & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Papers:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK